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lovwar
The Junior Certificate
lovwar The Junior Cert28

I got 6 A's, 2 Higher Merit's & 2 B's in the mocks. I want to get 10 A's in the junior cert. (basically all A's) but I'm not sure if I'll be able to, I'm doing the exam papers, I'm doing the homework - but I feel like I'm not doing enough. My parents are pissed that I got those results, as they expected all A's. Now, they think I'm going to do terrible in the junior cert, and to be honest - their mindset is starting to creep up onto mine. I'm trying to ignore them, but they don't support or encourage me at all anymore, they just said it's my life and it's my decision on whether or not I study, just because of those grades. I want to get all A's, but now I'm starting to think maybe I will do terrible because of how "badly" I did in the mock. + I'd love to hear from people how to get a distinction in the JC english exam, as I got a Higher Merit in the mock and I really want to get a distinction - but I don't know how. I've completed a lot of the exam papers already, and I'm sort of stuck in a loop hole on what to do. Any advice on the two would be greatly appreciated.


28 Comments
SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
But really, for a distinction in English you need a bit of luck too. There was a person here that got a distinction and made a blog about it and it was really pretentious (they used the word albeit like 5 times in the one post) but they obviously got an examiner that liked that kind of thing, whereas others would prefer a more personal response rather than unnecessarily superfluous language. Which subjects did you get Bs in and how close were you? It's doable in most subjects to bring a B to an A, unless it's a language or something subjective.
Liopad
Liopad
I got the same results as you except I got a merit in english. And I'm aiming for 10 a's aswell. There's this really good link for English that I've found. https://www.studyclix.ie/discuss/Junior-Cert-English/what-you-need-to-know-for-jc-englishhttps://www.studyclix.ie/discuss/Junior-Cert-English/what-you-need-to-know-for-jc-english It's helping me a bit to improve. Hope this helps
lovwar
lovwar
@SimpelEgg i got a B in maths & french, maths i got 82% and french i got 72% but i usually always get over 90% in my annual tests in 1st and 2nd year, the listening brought me down sm as we didnt do it before. but, ive practised them a lot ever since i got my mock result back and i went from 53% in the listening to 88%/90% so i think im set for french, for maths i realised that i stress far too much and misinterpret the questions, but either way i still need to get an A in those two, my french and maths teacher said im well able for an A in the actual junior cert but obviously i can't take their word for it, im just afraid i wont get an A because of how my mocks turned out.
lovwar
lovwar
@liopad thank you sm ! ill look at the links you gave me, and i hope we'll be able to get those 10 A's :)
lovwar
lovwar
@SimpelEgg in english i got 78%, again in the annual ones i got distinction but they were just past Q's made from the teacher so it was easy enough
SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
Ok, can't help you with English cause I got a higher merit (occasionally get H1s now so really the new junior cycle is rubbish for showing your skill at English). French, learning vocab is key but the majority for the listening and comprehensions is from French to English so you just need to recognise the word so practice past papers and translate words you don't know and you'll be grand. That's what I did to take a B to an A. (A bit late now but we had a little rainbow listening book which was brilliant for practice, they were organised by topic with vocab at the start) Maths, practice past papers again and again. In the exam do the easy questions first (or the proof/construction if it comes up) to build up your confidence and attempt every part of every question even if you don't understand it, just write something. Make sure you read over your work and read the question again, maybe underline it too cause I spent ages checking over mine just to realise after the exam that for a geometry question I wrote down the unshaded area instead if the shaded bit. As you read the question write the figures and relevant bits at the side so you're not overwhelmed by the massive story.
SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
I saw another guy talking about English before and he basically cheated the system by learning the marking schemes if you want to try that. Personally I wouldn't recommend it but who got the distinction? Not me.
SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
I found this that someone else posted if it’s of any use. NEED TO KNOW: MEDIA STUDIES your studied film(write a review) key themes and scenes key characters the plot NOVEL/SHORT STORY 2 studied novels(for comparing and contrasting) key characters and how they develop throughout the novel the relationship between characters overall theme the setting, social values, and mood for both novels the opening and ending paragraphs for both novels(came up in the SEC samples) POETRY know a wide range of poems with different themes/messages there could be unseen poetry, so know your poetic terms eg.. Assonance, alliteration, onomatopoeia.. etc and how to compare an unseen poem with one previously studied(Mock question) a poem that has a sense of place(SEC sample) DRAMA(Shakespeare) two studied dramas(for comparing) key scenes and how would you direct them( pay attention to light, props, costumes) the relationship between characters obstacles that a certain character must face A studied monologue/soliloquy.( speech by a character, Juliet before she drinks the poison) this came up in a SEC sample There could be an unseen drama so get used to Shakespearean terms eg hath, thou, hither etc WRITING FOR A VARIETY OF PURPOSES(FUNCTIONAL WRITING) know how to write the following and their characteristics, Articles Letters(formal and informal) Speeches Reviews(novel, film etc) Scripts Interviews Reports Blogs Email Postcard Poster Advertisments
lovwar
lovwar
@SimpelEgg thank you, haha honestly i hate the new if english as well. but did the guy learn past marking schemes? or did he somehow manage to get the marking scheme of the year he was doing the jc?
lovwar
lovwar
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SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
He learned the past years I guess, idk how he did it cause obviously the questions are different but I suppose his answers were more focused cause he knew what they were looking for
lovwar
lovwar
@SimpelEgg well then, ig it makes sense to know what the examiners want rather than what we think the examiners want. if u don't mind me asking, what grades did u get in the jc?
SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
Not knocking his way, there were no marking schemes for us anyway cause we were the first year. I got 6 As, a B in Irish and cspe (we didn't do a proper action project, I'm still salty cause I got 99% in the mocks so I KNOW it was the project, also had the same teacher for Irish but in fairness I'm bad at Irish anyway so I can't really blame her, except that no one in my school got an A so it is kind of shady) and a higher merit in English. You may be looking down on my results but honestly I don't regret not working harder at those subjects since cspe is worthless, English is completely different and lc irish doesn't require much actual language skill and is basically rote learning. Those junior cert unseen prose and poetry and the grammar bit are honestly harder than anything on the leaving cert paper.
lovwar
lovwar
@SimpelEgg oh no, i'm not looking down. i think they're great results, it's just being brought up in a family where i've been told to get over 90% since 1st year means I get disappointed at results that others would be thrilled to have. do u hl irish?
tcondon12
tcondon12
Honest to god I hate those type of parents. Don't accept failure and blah,blah blah. Please ignore them about "all A's". You can only do your best. Getting all A's is severly tiring and honestly a waste of time. The junior cert compared to the leaving cert is nothing, only practise for a state examination. Yes, you will have to study in life and thats become a part of most cultures, but its just the way of life we created. It's not your parents fault that they are like that, they jist have high expectations for you because they probably didn't do well when they were young.
SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
Yeah, I’m in higher level. Tried to drop to OL in 5th year but my teacher wouldn't let me. Got a H3 in the written mock, H2 including oral. My parents don't care about my results as long as I’m trying my best. Nothing worse than parents that can never be satisfied until you're the best in the country lol.
SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
They marked easier in English last year so you have a good chance of getting the distinction. There were 1.8% in 2017 but 2.5% last year so they obviously realised it wasn't fair how few people were getting them. Still nothing compared with the 10% of As in the old jc
lovwar
lovwar
@SimpelEgg true, ah well i can only hope for the best. thank you sm for giving me the advice x
lovwar
lovwar
@tcondon12 i know hahahah my parents are a nightmare if i'm being honest, they do my head in 90% of the time about the junior cert. they're thinking of decreasing the amount of hours i sleep just so i can get more study done. on average i study from 11am to 11pm (with breaks and all) so yeah, it's just annoying if i don't get all A's considering the amount of study time i'm putting in
TheAsianMichaelJackson
No offence mate but you're really completely wasrting your time if you're studing from what you said 11am to 11pm a day with a few breaks. Remember the JC is a mock for the leaving cert, it is worth absolutely no value. Out of the 10 subjects you're doing for your JC, you'll only need roughly 5 of them for your leaving cert. I know you may really want to get your 10A's but theres really no point in studying subjects like geography and history 3 hours a day if you'll never see them again after that one exam. Don't be putting that much stress on yourself for the JC
lovwar
lovwar
@TheAsianMichaelJackson i get what you mean, i think it’s far too much. but it’s the parents that are insisting i study this much, they think ill go down if i dont study as much as i said above. its stupid, i know ahah
lovwar
lovwar
@TheAsianMichaelJackson youre probably thinking “why cant u just tell ur parents that the amount u study is too much” but theyd go on a rant about how i dont want to get anywhere in life if i object, so i just put the head down and avoid it tbh
SimpelEgg
SimpelEgg
If they're making you study 12 hours a day for the junior cert are they gonna increase that for the lc? You're gonna die from exhaustion, that should be illegal. Maybe cry about the stress at school and they might ring your parents and tell them they're crazy
Liopad
Liopad
I get what you mean. My parents are like 4 hours are not enough and stuff. It's stupid, but they got all a's in their exams so...
ilovetostudy
Your parents are fairly mean if they think your mock results are bad. Theyre really really good lmao
ClaireRuss
honestly i would say just be able to adapt your information for english, learn the facts and anwser what the question is asking you
aekp
aekp
I'm in the same position as you, I really want to get all A's and it sometimes does feel impossible. For the English exam, learn your quotes in everything, and i would suggest learning how to expand your answer efficiently. Make sure you use the question, refer to it constantly, and make sure you read the question. Many people in my school misread a question on the mocks and didn't answer a question properly. It lost them a lot of marks. I would also suggest learning one poem from the themes of love, family, war and death and any necessary quotes from your chosen poems. Your film is a bit harder to study, but we're lucky in the sense that quotes don't need to be exact. Choose three or four key scenes and study lighting, camera angles, atmosphere and theme. With the novel, choose three or four key moments and learn them in detail- what happeens, how the characters react, how it ties into the story and what affect it has on the novel. Choose two or three key characters and study them in detail. And most of all, don't be discouraged. by the siunds of it, you'll do really well in your exams with these results from your mocks. They mocks are 99% of the time harder than the actual exam. Best of look on getting those A's!!
lovwar
lovwar
@aekp thank you so much! i hope we both get those straight A’s. Good luck! :heart:
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